Stray Dogs

[Texas John]

:(Well we lost a doe fawn yesterday.
Went to feed as usual at 5:30pm and saw three large dogs on our property. They scooted when we approached.
Found one doe fawn missing and began to look - found her dead near where the dogs had been!
I drove the area looking for the dogs, but did not see them also stopped and asked at every house in the area, but NO ONE HAD DOGS LOOSE and I did not see the three culprits.
Now I hate to hurt any animal; however, I am not going to put up with this and notified all the people I talked to that loose dogs on my property could be considered DEAD from this point on!
Due to the weather my dogs were inside; or this would never have happened.
Both my wife and I are sick about this.
Evidently the dogs had the deer so scared that the doe fawn jumped a 6' fence and then the dogs killed it!!!!
I hate people who let their dogs run wild with no training or thought of what they might do- so now it's open season on stray dogs on my place!

[Spiderman]

They will be back given any chance so be prepared as much as you can. Large live traps can be used on strays and catch and release of anything not doomed. If your dogs travel all of your grounds it is hard to trap or snare without unwanted catches. I have had the same thing with deer run into fences and injured and necks broken. Then the dogs go home...makes it hard to deal with. Good luck Jim

[WRW_2]

SSS. I would not hesitate. If they got 1, they will be back for more.

[Texas John]

Tis a shame, given how I feel about animals. In the last few years we have taken dogs that are "dumped" at our property to the nearest shelter. It costs us time, effort + $25.00 for each dog.
I won't be doing that anymore.
Actually it's the owners that should be punished, not the animals.
Given the caliber of some of the people it is a losing battle and one that I am reluctantly going to solve by the only method I know.
Poisons are out - I don't believe in that.
Traps are out - my two dogs have been trained to walk the property line, but will not cross - even in the heat of rabbit chase.
I am now looking into an 8' fence around the entire 32+ acres - with a wire barrier on the ground also to stop digging under.
I buried the fawn this morning and must tell you I was and remain a very unhappy "camper".

[Mira Vista Ranch]

Hog Traps with meat might work.....I caught a Coyote one time and it was a skinny one too ...and relocated it . Some Ranchers kill dogs in there property.

[PaintedMeadowsBJs]

I COMMEND YOU FOR TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING...GOD KNOWS I HAVE TRIED TIME AND TIME AGAIN...BUT
They can and will still run them...from the outside ...I lost many deer...some were my favorite...
I have lost deer to dogs THREE DIFFERENT TIMES...and have stopped may other times/tragedy's with just scrapes.
I lost two huge pied bucks... a favorite Fallow deer and a few doe... Fawns that were killed in December after bottle raising them...I can send you graphic detail...
I love dogs...My life and others depend on my dogs...But if you let them...they will kill your deer!...It is not the dogs fault, but I lost many great deer...With nothing to show...Let alone the fact...I loved them and they were attacked it their home...I did everything I could to save them...but they will still hit fences when chases from the outside...Dogs do not care if they can get in ...The chase is fun.
PEOPLE DON'T CARE IF THEIR DOGS RUN...I have caught dogs on my property found out who the owner was kindly asked them to come get it and tie it up and was told...Let the dog go it will come home on it's own and I would have to bare with them it may take a few weeks to lock the dog up...They know they chase deer...and tried to keep it tied up last hunting season...but they slip their collars, so they will have to find time to buy new one's!!!:mad:
I WILL NOT LOSE ANOTHER DEER TO DOGS
If you have neighbors you can trust circle the wagons
SSS

[Whitepine Whitetails]

I Have multi-strand cable snares set on the corners of my pen, set where I can easily visually check them.
Use relaxing lock snares and the animal caught will not be harmed.
They work 24 hrs./day, 365 days / year.
No bait, about a buck apiece.....freezing rain is the only thing that stops them.
The Snare Shop, snareshop.com in Iowa is where I get mine.
They've taken care of dozens of dogs and coyotes over the last 10 years.
Do not set them where deer could get tangled, they will fight them untill the end. There is a break away device if deer are a possibility.
Hope this helps.

[deeronfarm]

I gave up on the sss
I lost 3 bucks 5-30-08
And now I have lawers fees on top of the lost.
But I haven't gave up they are going to pay for my lost.
Now I shoot the dog and call the dog warden to come and get the dog and take it home.
She then gives them a ticket for dogs run at large.
My neigbors know what will happen to there dog if it sets foot on my place.
30.06 and 24 power scope I can get them.
Sorry about your lost

[gcw matt]

Blue Marlin(Fly Dope) In Hamburger Balls. Not inhumane! will Die in 10 steps!!!!

[PaintedMeadowsBJs]

Even if they are on your land chasing your animals the dog owner can sue for the cost of the dog...That is the only reason I say get them before they get you.SSS Shut Up being the important part don't tell anyone...
I just want to prevent loss now...I tried calling and talking and working it out the dog wardens just act like your bothering them he even told them the deer farm called and complained about their dog...None of that works.
Blue Marlin does well...but you gotta watch.I like to see what I kill... so I know I am getting something that deserves it.
Best of luck what ever you choose...You will still need luck!

[Texas John]

As of this afternoon - just bout an hour ago - there is one less. Was the same group of three. Tried for all three but my aim for the two running like blue blazes was not so good! Don't feel to good about it, but then I don't feel too good bout a doe fawn who was chased and killed in her home! A home that I'm responsible for.
Maybe I'll get visited by a dog owner - probably one I talked to last night who said their dogs weren't loose and would never chase or kill a deer!!!!!!
Look forward to talking to them it that comes about.....
Appreciate all the kind words from you all and the suggestions..

[Scott Heinrich]

A good electric fence and a well seasoned .270 will cure the problem.

[Texas John]

Scott I have the electric fence; however, when my entry gate is open it ain't electirfied (at the gate) so that's the entry point. An AK 47 does well also.

[CurtisLloyd]

7.62 x 39 is high voltage

[Texas John]

Interesting note:
Had a visit last night from a person looking for a dog!
Naturally the dog just escaped from a "good" pen. Seems it was one of the dogs that killed the fawn.
I pointed that out to him and told him if I saw the dog I would be sure to let him know!!!
That's one dog that won't come home.

[deeronfarm]

Here in ohio I have the right by law to shot and kill the dogs.
The warden said not to shot them in the butt and send them home.Thats when I would have the prolem.I have sent 5 dead dogs home now.

[buckstopohio]

We've had these problems too. Had some killed. Also killed several agressive dogs. Hate to do it but this is our livelyhood. I actually had our neighbors border collies running them after numerous warnings I had the cops out. She even told police " I only warned her 3 times" I showed her a copy of the revised code giving me the right to shoot to kill and haven't seen her dogs since. Chalk it up to ignorance!

[Deerchaser]

Where do you get the blue marlin fly dope

[ANTLER VALLEY]

Deerchaser, I think it's actually called Golden Marlin, but it is blue in color. Can also be mixed with milk.

[gcw matt]

That is right Golden Marlin!

[gcw matt]

Go get'em Robert!

[gcw matt]

Get Golden Marlin at TSC, or Rural King or any farm store that carries fly dope.

[buckstopohio]

I know in Ohio they can not get a penny. The dog is unrestrained on your property. We have had it happen. You can actually sue the owner if you can find them. That is ohio anyway.

[Whitetail Sanctuary]

A fine tuned Browning .204 makes short work of strays for me. But Golden Marlin mixed with a little grape pop is an undiscriminating KILLER coon-cats-dogs-possom you name it one sip of this and they usally don't make it far from the dish!

[gcw matt]

It comes in a can about like the old oil can that Grandpa used to have to poke a hole in the top of. I put about 5 crumbles in a small hamburger ball and it has worked. In the hot summer i put 5 crumbles in a gallon ice cream bucket and pour a Coke on it. work great!

[Spiderman]

It is called Golden Maldren....very lethal and kills everything.....even you dog if it gets to it. I wouldn't use this as you will kill dozens of animals to get your dogs. I know you can't be there all of the time or at night but I have seen a neighbor use this stuff for ground hogs and dead coons and cats were everywhere and no ground hogs. Jim

[buckstopohio]

You can pick fly bait up under many different names at just about any tractor supply or like store. It aslo works great if you have coon or possom problems. A hearty bowl mixed in milk. Just watch becasue it will kill cats etc.

[gcw matt]

It is called Golden Maldren....very lethal and kills everything.....even you dog if it gets to it. I wouldn't use this as you will kill dozens of animals to get your dogs. I know you can't be there all of the time or at night but I have seen a neighbor use this stuff for ground hogs and dead coons and cats were everywhere and no ground hogs. Jim

That is the whole point. I Don't want coons, opossums, cats, rats, and Dog anywhere around my pens. I tell my friends and neighbours if they don't want dead pets keep them away from my pens.

[gcw matt]

I hope you meant $6.75? If not I have some extra I can sell you!:D

[warrenwhitetails]

4 years a go i had a dog eventually kill 29 of my deer, 13 mature bucks the first night! I could not find the owner and I did kill the dog. In ohio you may kill any dog that is on your property and so much as looks at your livestock, believe me I have looked into it. The best solution is to shoot shovel and shut up!

[Scott Heinrich]

SSS Game Ranch Services.......Any Questions?

[Neeby]

Its a shame some people think so little of there neighbors to just let dogs run free! I have been getting alot of dropped off cats, kittens, and dogs here at my farm. I find homes for most of them, and some I keep , beings my kids want to keep everything! But its getting old!

[IndependenceRanch]

Its a shame some people think so little of there neighbors to just let dogs run free!

It is a shame people think so little of their dogs that they would let them run off their property and end up dead or injured. Every dog I have shot defending our property I felt bad about having to do it. I would rather punish the owners.

[Neeby]

Good point! We consider our dogs part of the family, I wouldnt let my kids run wild nor my animals, maybe obama will appoint a dog czar to address this problem! hehe!

[buckstopohio]

Where we live is the back roads connecting Farrell PA and Youngstown Ohio, which I found out has several dog fighting rings. Last year we started getting abused pit bulls that were no good for fighting and the bait dogs they use. Mean, starved and down right horrible. We are doing them a favor in all honesty.

[buckstopohio]

Just a week or so ago there was a dog that scared our girls as they were going to the bus stop . It left the kids alone when It found a pen full of deer. Needless to say thanks to a Muzzy 100grain broad head..."DOG GONE"