Fawns on the ground

[The Roberts Ranch]

:eek:We have fawns on the ground today. This is the earliest ever. So far I only found 1 doe fawn and it got dark on me. We are in Ohio, I sure hope the weather holds out, and stays warm. I was not expecting any until mid May. The fawn I found was good size and healthy. The fun is just begining.

Larry Roberts

[kydeer]

Was the fawn from A.I.

[CurtisLloyd]

Fawns on the ground.... some parts of Saskatchewan are forecast to get 10+ inches of snow tonight..... fawns are a month away

[The Roberts Ranch]

No. Live Bred. He must have gotten to her early. You never know in Ohio, we may also get some snow.

[Antlershed]

wow i cant believe how early, i've live bred for three years, ive never had a fawn before the 20th of May. hopefully it stays nice out your way, Last year I had 5 born on May 20 it was 38 degrees and pouring rain, the next moring 1 was dead, and one was in the early stages of pnemonia, luckily he pulled through, he is the one in my avatar.

[H&M Whitetails]

what part of ohio, wonder if early rut

[The Roberts Ranch]

I am in South east Columbiana County. we are on the edge of West Virginia, Pennsylvania, and Ohio. I was out tonight and I have another girl that is pretty much bagged up and her belly has dropped. She may be next.

The girl that had fawn yesterday, had triplets last year, and only a single this time. All is well, I tagged and vaccinated and was watching her nurse tonight. She is a good sized fawn.

All we can do is pray for good weather....... You never know in this part of the country, 80* one day and snowing the next....Keep our fingers crossed.

[foodplot]

Had a doe have babies this morning from a live breeding in southern IL.

[Derek Workman]

Just check had triplets live breeding this morning!!! Northern Indiana 2 1/2 year old doe.

[ddwhitetails]

There starting to trickle in........hope everyones ready!!!

[ANTLER VALLEY]

Does anyone hold out for second heat cycle when natural breeding to avoid early fawns? I bred 22 does in the same weekend on November 15th and 16th last fall.

I expect to find my first fawns (if all goes right) in the final days of May...last year it was so wet and cold I was sure we needed to make them hold out about as late as we could and still be able to wean around the first of September.

[Antlershed]

anyone else having new ones, I love the fawn threads, I look forward to them every year. I have one doe that is very close, her udder looks like its gonna pop. i watched the baby kicking inside her while she was at the feeder. Should be anyday now.

[virgil]

I had 2 Fireball buck fawns born Sat morning was hoping for doe but i will settle for bucks. I have them in the house right now starting them on bottle mother don't take care of her fawns very well. I got 18 more doe to go auta be a fun summer.

[Arrowhead Whitetails]

We had our first fawns Saturday evening. They are out of Maxbo Hardcore and a Reno/ Flees Heavy doe. The boys were a welcome sight. Hope to have some more this week. Good luck to everyone.

[verticalacres]

We just had our first set of fawns this afternoon. Out of Flip and a Glacier Doe.

[TallTines]

Not to be stupid - but what are the signs for knowing when the does are getting closer. This is our first time (less then 30 days) of being into deer farming. Our does that are bred are not tame so we can not get close to them. I have noticed they are getting bigger.

[Reed68]

Full bag, walking fence lightly grunting, peeing alot, getting up and down, and licking butt.

[Buckskin]

Tall Tines, If you can get a look at them from behind with their tail up you should be able to see their udder. It will get quite abit larger as the time gets close. Also I have noticed right before fawning the doe gets kind of nervous acting. often moving away from the other does. She might start pacing the fence,bedding down then getting back up,appearing a little uncomfortable. If you look at their bellies the babies will often move down a little lower(a noticable sag) just before birthing. However with all this said I have seen fawns delivered by does showing few if any of these sighns. Its sometimes a surprise. Rick

[Buckskin]

Reed we must have been typing the same time Rick

[Isaac@AppleCreek]

here are one of 3 fawns on our farm so far. He is out of typhoon .
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3299/3522719598_823544de56_o.jpg

[WillPenn Whitetails]

Not to be stupid - but what are the signs for knowing when the does are getting closer. This is our first time (less then 30 days) of being into deer farming. Our does that are bred are not tame so we can not get close to them. I have noticed they are getting bigger.

I agree with what others have said so far, except that I've had 2-3 girls over the last 2 years have big bags that lasted for nearly a month before fawning. One of my does has had a large bag for over 3 weeks now, and she's still not due for 2 more weeks.
When my does start pacing the fence with their tails straight out it's normally just a matter of hours before the fawns hit the ground. Other than that it's just a matter of frequently checking the pens everyday. Good luck.

[TX Deer]

Anyone having fawns in Texas or OK yet?
If so, what was your AI date?

[B_Whitetails]

Hey Mike goo to see ya on here. Good luck with your fawns this season. I can't wait. Talk to you soon!

[Gaylen C]

The easiest way to tell is if they have fallen away. What this means is if you can see little indentions on both sides of the back between the tail and the hips then time is getting real close. The bones are softened and are ready for delivery. Usually within a couple of days.

[Jack]

Well guys and girls Montana has it's first of the year whitetail fawn born today. It is a son of G B High Point out of a Cyclone/Redoy Ruger daughter. It is 188 days from AI. Shouldn't have any problems at it is 70 degrees with 38 degree nights. It will stay with it's dam.:)

[IndependenceRanch]

Well I am sitting in my living room on baby watch as I type this. Earlier Laurie and I went out and tagged the first set of fawns from the live breeding. (Max Thrust on an Avalanche doe)
1 buck and 1 doe. The games have begun here. Our A/I babies will be popping soon along with the rest of our live bred does.

[Jack]

Roger, Kind of like Christmas isn't it? Waiting around in antipication like a bunch of kids. We deer breeders have the most fun.

[IndependenceRanch]

Jack, that is exactly what I always say. It is like Christmas time.

[Jack]

Anybody have any ideas on this problem? I seem to have too many singles when I AI. Conception rate is good about 80% but many singles born. The doe that had the GB High Point today was a single. I AI'd her as a yearling and she had one AI fawn. At two and a half I let her breed natural and she had triplets. Now at three and a half with AI she had a single again. Any Ideas?

[IndependenceRanch]

Another present was just opened out in the pen. One of our Maxbo does (a womb sister to Max Thrust) just pushed out 1 fawn and the other is halfway out.
Did she have 3 maybe? Last year she pushed out 3 Rolex fawns as a first time mother.
Who thinks she had 3 again this year?

[PaintedMeadowsBJs]

Jack,
Maybe the Hormone shot?

[Neeby]

Ive heard others having just 1 fawn to AI, I guess thems the breaks.

[West Michigan Whitetails]

Roger, Did she have 3?
We have been dropping fawns for a few days now, we Ai'd our first bunch on the 7th of Nov. and the first one went on day 190 and gave us 4 Grizzly fawns, all good and healthy. Only 6 to go out of the first batch then I can take a little break, Maybe get out and fill my Turkey Tag.
Good luck with the fawns.

[IndependenceRanch]

Yes Dan she did have 3 very nice fawns. Two girls and one boy.
I know I have said it before but I will say it again. Let me see some of those Grizzly sons when they get grown out.

[Aaron_CCDR]

Had our first fawn (6.5 lbs Martygraw buck fawn) on the 18th. We had 6 more yesterday the 21st. The rest should be in the next couple of days. We had a good year with AI this year.

[redwood_river_whitetails]

Had triplet buck fawns out of Canyon (Laurie Prasnicki) on Wednesday. My Trixie had a buck and doe (Pixie) fawn last night out of Canyon also. It was so cool.....we watched everything!!

[Edgemoor]

We finally had some fawns today, running a little late. Triplet doe fawns from Rampage's sister AI'd to Marty Gras. Would have liked a buck or two, but they are healthy and it's still early....maybe the bucks will come.

[B_Whitetails]

Still no fawns here. They are all live covers so i guess it will be a bit longer. Caint wait!

[thunder]

It has been a very busy weekend! 9 more fawns!

[redwood_river_whitetails]

Had 6 fawns yesterday. All live breds. One doe had a buck and doe fawn out of our yearling. Had 2 doe fawns out a real nice 10 point clean typical. And had 2 does fawns out of a doe bought from Fier's in Porter, MN out of MN Geronimo. Have 2-3 does walking the fence pretty hard today. One is AIed to Marty Graw and one AIed to Prentice.

[redwood_river_whitetails]

Had 2 doe fawns out of Marty Graw today.....EXCITING!!!

[TRIPLE R WHITETAILS]

How many days are your ai'd does running...
I had 2 does come in already. One at day # 196
and one at day # 197. Waiting on 4 more im at day # 199
today.

[redwood_river_whitetails]

Had one at 191 days and 2 at 193 days. Still have 3 to go for AI. One looks like she's going to explode and one started pacing the fence. We are at 197 days today.

[wvdeerman]

Hey Susan, congratulations on the fawns. Sounds like you had a busy weekend. We had a fawn born yesterday that I think you may be interested in. I found her yesterday morning at daylight. At first I thought my J-44 doe had triplets. We were so proud because we had never had triplets before. Well, we still haven't. I finally discovered that only two fawns were hers and the other was from this doe. Apparently she only had a single fawn. She is very large though. If you are interested in her I will honor the price I quoted you earlier, but I have her priced differently on the ad.

Let me know if your interested. I have ads placed on deerfarmer

[Edgemoor]

6 fawns today. 2 bucks from Waldvogel's Duece, 2 bucks from Rampage and 1 of each from Maxfli.

[Droptine]

Had my first two fawns Sunday. Both bucks.

[ikoff]

I've had 4 live fawns since May 17...3 does and 1 buck. 1 very small doe fawn was stillborn yesterday. Hoping for a few more bucks!!

[Arrowhead Whitetails]

We have 26 fawns so far. 15 bucks and 11 does There are 26 does still to fawn. Friday is the magical 196th day from AI. Good luck to everyone

[Whitetail Sanctuary]

was wondering this is my first year for a/i did u use pmsg,seeder,vaginal,lap,at what hour did u a/i after pulled seeder how many times did u split straw ? just wondering even my friend who uses seeders just to cycle and group his fawns he has lots of qauds hoping i have multi births WHITETAIL SANCTUARY " JUST LIVIN THE DREAM"

[Arrowhead Whitetails]

W.S., we ai'd 14 head here this year. We did vaginal and split our straws twice. We used cidrs and ai'd at about 56 hours after pulling them. It looks like we will be around 90-95% conception this year in just our second year of doing AI. We currently have 2 Loner buck fawns, 2 Hardcore buck fawns, 2 Tonto doe fawns, 1 Tonto buck fawn (trips) 2 Wildfire doe fawns, 6 Maxbo buck fawns and 15 AI does remain. We are planning to do lap AI about 35 does this fall. Do some checking around and you'll find many guys with great success. Good luck

[pdaddy]

We Ai'd 7 does for our farm, 6 stuck, we used PMSG, left CIDR's in for 14 days, AI'd 60 hours after pulling CIDR's. We used Buckhorn AI Team, all were done cervically in a Mama declayna dropchute. Buckhorn success rate for the last 3 years has been 75%.

[IndependenceRanch]

Whitetail Sanctuary, if you look under "Breeding and Genetics" you will find a discussion I started about A/I that has some of the basics put together in an article. Hope it helps.

[West Michigan Whitetails]

We are at day 201, 11 out of 14 have gone, now we have a little break before the next batch of AI doe's go, and yes I did get out finally.

[gcw matt]

WOW nice Paint Brush!!!!! New Babies and Turkey Hunting. How could it get any better. We have been done with the turkey for a month down in Southern Illinois, but you just gave me the fever for next year. My wife will not be happy!!!!!

[Edgemoor]

4 more fawns today. 2 buck fawns from maxfli. sadly a buck and doe fawn from edgemoor deuce were stillborn. first one was breech and the second couldn't get past. had to pull both.

[Rustyblaster]

First fawns ever to be born at my place! One buck and one doe! Looking foward to what tomorrow brings! It's like a great big lottery every time I go in the pen now.

Roger, 2 bucks from Maxfli... must be nice!

Is your mother doe ok that was breeched?

[Edgemoor]

Hey Rusty (proud papa), glad to hear you finally got fawns down there, hopefully many more on the way. We had two more tonight from Waldvogel's Duece, don't know the sex yet. The breeched doe seems okay, but I am concerned about infection setting in.

[Edgemoor]

Triplet Marty Gras fawns today. 2 does, 1 buck. We have nearly 50% of our fawns now.

[Rustyblaster]

Yea, as I said before this is my first time fawning and up until I found the first fawn I was not completely convinced does were puffed up enough to be throwing right now. In fact, I can't tell who the mother is and I only have three candidates. I pulled the doe fawn after about 24-48 hours and now after trying to bottle feed her she is finally getting it down at a good rate. In a house of screaming kids I am surprised she took to it so nicely. I have a hunch of the mother but will have to see how behaviors change when others fawn. I may have to wait and see who buck fawn suckles to find out. I am still a rookie feeling out the ropes. If there is an easier way short of DNA then I'm all fawn ears fellas!

[~Jennifer~]

Rusty...becareful not to let your buck fawn fool you. Just because he nurses on a doe doesn't always mean that's Momma. I have seen a couple of great does take care of whatever fawn wanted to latch on. Good Luck with "momma hunting" :)

[Rustyblaster]

I walked the pen this morning and buck fawn was one step behind mama everywhere she went.;) Problem solved. I can't imagine the anxiety of coming home and finding 5,6, or 8 fawns in the pen born on same day.:eek::rolleyes::confused: My situation was easy and it was still hard!

Good point Jennifer on the possible adoptive mother. This one was easy because the aparent mother was a first time mom and the first fawning deer on the farm.

[allenb]

Congrats Rusty on your first fawns.Some mothers let you know RIGHT NOW it's their fawn, while others just want to be worrysome and make you figure it out. Good luck. Allen

[Isaac@AppleCreek]

...I can't imagine the anxiety of coming home and finding 5,6, or 8 fawns in the pen born on same day.:eek::rolleyes::confused: ....

We check the pens twice per day. If we find new fawns we look for the Mom, Give shots, microchip, collect DNA sample ear tag, weigh, take temp. load all info in GMS and return fawn to pen.

Best of luck out there. Hope all the fawning season continues along well for everyone!

[Rustyblaster]

I am checking pens about four times daily and have narrowed it down to two does. I have identified mother by sight but she looks exactly like (or closely enough to) the other doe that I can't tell what number is on her red sheepstar tag. Those red ones are hard to read in shaded settings. Not to worry because buck fawn was tailing mama this morning so I will know soon enough when I catch them in well lit feeder area with binocs.

[PaintedMeadowsBJs]

Isn't it amazing how hard tags are to read when it really matters... hair in the way... mud ect...

[gcw matt]

Had our first fawns yesterday from a doe that I didn't get the CIDR in right last fall and she couldn't pee, so I pulled the CIDR and put her in with the breeder buck. Cidr was in 24 hours It has been 199 days since I pulled it. That little CIDR did a lot of work in two days. Twins a buck and a doe. Then this morning when I went out to pull the doe fawn to bottle feed I found a surprise. My favorite doe had just had twins from Lap AI @ 189 days. Dream Knockout Fawns from a U-Turn Doe. Got so excited I had to do a little dance. Hope the neighbors didn't see!!!!!

[Reed68]

This is BS. We AI'ed Nov 24th, all does. No backup. NO fawns, no prebirth symtoms, guess I'll watch horns grow this year. Will probely have some milk replacer for sale this year. Not to mention its been 97 degrees the last two days, down here. The bucks have quit growing too. I'm just in a PISSED OFF mood this morning I guess.
Mitch, Rusty, DC, MP, Roger, ZZ, I NEED A PEP TALK!!!!!! or a poledancer"FEMALE".

[John Swank]

This is BS. We AI'ed Nov 24th, all does. No backup. NO fawns, no prebirth symtoms, guess I'll watch horns grow this year. Will probely have some milk replacer for sale this year. Not to mention its been 97 degrees the last two days, down here. The bucks have quit growing too. I'm just in a PISSED OFF mood this morning I guess.
Mitch, Rusty, DC, MP, Roger, ZZ, I NEED A PEP TALK!!!!!! or a poledancer"FEMALE".


Here ya go, Reed.... Its the best I can do for a pole dancer on a Sunday afternoon... Be sure to turn up the speakers....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9og9YZu8gI&feature=player_embedded

[Jack]

Now that was very cute. That bear sure had the moves. I'm sure Reed feels better now I know I do. Good one John.

[Reed68]

I forgot to mention you John. I think that hit the spot. BUTTTT, I ask for female, and that looked like Mitch to me??????????

[NK Whitetails]

That sucks big time Reed! Very sorry to hear that!

[NK Whitetails]

Maybe this will help!

[John Swank]

I forgot to mention you John. I think that hit the spot. BUTTTT, I ask for female, and that looked like Mitch to me??????????

No comment on that one.... :D

Sorry, to hear things didn't work out with the A/I. It happens to the best of em too - it comes with the territory, unfortunately.

I just hope the pole dancing video made ya laugh, as that's what it was intended to do...

Good luck and hang in there,
John

[SJames]

Reed,

I assume you know that you are at 188 days today. Most fawns arrive between 193-196 days. Very few arrive before 190 days. They still have a few days to bag up and fawn and still be in the norm for when you A.I.ed. I wouldn't lose hope yet!

How many did you A.I. - Good Luck!

Sam

[Reed68]

I do have a couple that are bagging up, but in Oklahoma, we cant wait that long to AI. It is going to too hot, for birthing. I want to reach in and pull them out. "IM READY FOR MY BABIES":D.I had to wait to get on another farms schedule,:mad: we are usually done fawning by now. Looks like I need to call Apple Creek and get some Inseminaters.:confused: I'm not waiting his long anymore.
I'm sitting here watching icarly with McKenzie, and reading about all the fawns. We go to the pen and the little turds are just chewing thier cud. :oI'm tired of watching icarly and spongebob,:p I need them babies. I going to fing a drug to induce labor.:eek:
Sam, I know I'm just at 188, but its getting frustrating. Just bitching on a boring afternoon.:p

[Reed68]

I have a P.J./Scar doe that is a least has triplets in her. She has to walk around her bag to walk. She has Moses's womb brother in her, soooooo P.J./Scar/Bucky/Highroller???????.

I have NEVER been more ready for fawns, than I am this year.

[Reed68]

Apple Creek, I need 12 Inseminators for next year. And you need to hold a seminar in Texas, Maybe the TDA Hunters Extravaganza in FT Worth?

Dc, get thet thawing, and semen handling school at REI lined out.

[ikoff]

Reed....All good things come to those that wait!:) You too, DC

[Reed68]

I talked to Russell, and he said no more pictures could be posted until I get my fawns.:D Anywhere, that is for those that are going to send your pictures to my email.:D:p:D

[Reed68]

You Know what Dennis, We AI'ed November 24th, and TB tested March 20-23. Do you think this affected it?

All of our does are early fawners, we are usually done by June 1, I was watching my good does come in a month before we AI'ed. The ones that stuck are the ones that always fawn late in May??????????

We still had 5 out of 9 stick.

[virgil]

I ai'd 10 doe on nov 4 and 7 have had fawns whats the chances that the other three took to ai and are just late. I know it is long shot now but what is the longest some of your does have gone. PS, Dennis you shouldn't have used goat semen.

[B_Whitetails]

Had my first Bm Bismark fawns this weekend. One buck and one doe. Both big fawns, and the doe will be on fox valley. I will post pictures on the study.

Hey Reed, I feel the same way as you do. It was taking forever, i was so bored waiting i would sweep the barn everyday just wishing i had some dang fawns here. Well good luck and i hope all works out for you. What formula are you using?

[Mitch P]

Hey Dennis, how did I get included in this coversation? If a pole dance will put a smile on your face get me a BIG pole and I`ll have ya laughing. :D

NO David, one on the pole at a time. :eek:

[Headley]

My frist Al Fawns on the Ground 05/30

[kydeer]

I had 2 live breed does this year.Both does had twin's,each of them had a buck fawn and a doe fawn.I guess I cant ask for much more than that.Very happy.

[Rustyblaster]

Congrats Ky!:D Are you bottle feeding any? I had a hard time getting my first girl to take b/c I was trying to do it right away and not give her a night to get hungry. She fought me tooth and nail for three or four feedings.:mad: Yesterday, I picked up day old doe fawn from another farm @ 2pm and didn't try to feed her until 5:30am this morning. I still had to pry her jaw open but she was sucking before I could get the bottle all the way seated in her jaw.:):o I read it before several times but I just had a hard time leaving those cute little bugers alone when they first got pulled. Now I know why all have been preaching this method. Good luck fawners!

[Edgemoor]

Hey Rusty,
Glad to hear your fawns are taking the bottle good. Still fighting 'em up here. We'll soon have 10 on the bottle. No new fawns today, but we had 24 in the past week.

[Little Falls Whitetails]

Fawns are really starting to drop daily now. On Sat we got twins (buck & doe) sired by Matrix out of our newest addition, a first time mother we purchased from Ron & Mary Pierce. The doe's sire is Avalanche, and her dame is Adrenaline's mom. Couldn't wait for the fawns to come, and now that we have a buck fawn, can't wait for horns to grow next year.

Also have another first time doe bred to Matrix purchased from Ron & Mary that should fawn this week.

Yesterday morning, our Redoy Weatherby doe had twins (didn't check as she was just cleaning them off) that were sired by our Maxbuck.

Last week, our Walk's Savage doe had triplets, (two does & a buck) which were sired by our Maxbuck.

[Lisa]

We had our first fawns over the weekend! A stillborn (i was really looking forward to that breeding too!)... then 2 sets of triplets and 2 sets of twins...our due date is not until June 5th, but HERE THEY COME! All healthy too! We pulled the 2 smallest out of the trips....a Cocky son and an Amos daughter. Now the fun begins! ; ) Hope everyone else is doing well with theirs!

[IndependenceRanch]

Hi Lisa, Congrats on the fawns coming. We are right in the heat of things here. Several on the bottle and still more dropping yet. Had a set of twins this morning again. It has been a good spring so far. Have fun!

[West Michigan Whitetails]

Our second round has started, We Ai'd all our first year does on Nov. 27 and the first one went last night, a little early (day 185) but she had 2 nice sized fawns, 18 to go should be a busy week. Good Luck.

[Reed68]

A.M.:confused:,A.M.:30:(:(:(:(

[kydeer]

Yes Rusty,I am bottle feeding again this year.I bottle feed all of my fawn's.Some time's it is a pain in the butt.For a little extra work in the begining,it sure pay's of in the long run.It is nice when you can put your hand's on them.When you need to give them a injectable meds and not have to dart.

[Antlershed]

Im still waiting on my first fawns for the year, from live bred does. A little unusal because the past 2 years they were all done by now. Just watched them all this evening, none have even bagged up yet, oh well, hopefully they'll start by the weekend. Im usually a patient guy, but they are really testing me, I am extra excited this year because i may have some pied fawns.

[Little Falls Whitetails]

Got another set of Matrix twins yesterday morning! Buck and Doe.

[LJwhitetails]

We had our first Lap-AI'd fawns on May 29 AM 2 buck fawns
another doe had 1 doe fawn in the PM, both of these were form
Apollo 13
On May 31 we had a live cover give triplets(2 bucks and 1 doe fawn) these were out of Billy which is Mr Bills son
We have 2 more live covers left but think it will be a little longer for them

[CurtisLloyd]

I am bottlefeeding the three of the quints that are still alive they are doing great, the other two had breathing problems from the start and didn't make it. They were small ( 2-2.5 lbs). I am useing one of our facility corrals to keep the fawns in and at 2 1/2 wks they are dropping fairly solid dark pellets, in the past I housed them in a small barm and kept them inside for the first 4 wks , which with our weather sometimes was a necessity (this morning I could see my breath when I went out to the deer at 8 am) we have always given greens ,dirt and free choice feed to the fawns in the barn but I am starting to think that fawns raised on or allowed to spend part of their day on the ground outside might be as benefitial to them as all the probiotics, yogurt,pumpkin or any other rumen fixating remedy out there. I know someone will have an opinion

[IndependenceRanch]

I am really excited. I just finished watching one of last years doe fawns have her first fawn. Wow, what a big baby, but she did a good job.
It is pretty exciting because the mother is from Max Thrust and the fawn she just had is from Updraft. I can't wait to go see if it is a boy or girl:)

[redwood_river_whitetails]

Wow....congrats Roger!!! That should be some fawn!!!