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Isaac@AppleCreek
05-26-2009, 02:15 PM
Today we saw an eagle in a tree 30 feet from a mother and her fawn. It has been circling the ranch all day now. Is this a problem.:confused: Will the eagle take a fawn.:confused: If so anyone have a suggestion:confused::
ikoff
05-26-2009, 02:28 PM
Shoot it along with the bear!!!........no,no I'm only joking!! I'm sure that an eagle will take a fawn but if you do anything to an eagle it would be worse than killing a person. Hope that it don't take your best fawns.
Wild Rivers Whitetails
05-26-2009, 02:28 PM
Yes, eagles will take newborn fawns. There isn't a whole lot you can do about it since eagles are protected. After a few days the fawns are bigger and not in as much danger - it seems just the first day or so they are vulnerable. Like we've mentioned before, we have those plastic barrels in the pens and if you can get the fawns to lay in them most of the time they are protected.
I have seen eagles take baby fawns and baby sheep. I had a bald eagle here last week and it was right over some elk calves. But mother elk are very aggressive so it went away. You could move the deer to a different pen. Being our countries bird and all I guess you just watch it and hope for the best.
ddwhitetails
05-26-2009, 03:02 PM
Yep shoot in its direction....you have every right to protect your babies....just don't kill the thing!!!
Isaac@AppleCreek
05-26-2009, 03:18 PM
it is the against the law to chase, harass, or disturb the nesting place.:eek:
That eliminates the shot-gun idea:(
PaintedMeadowsBJs
05-26-2009, 03:33 PM
Just take pictures of it and cross your fingers like I did...It worked for me so far....
Hey...Maybe he heard me talking to my boyfriend about your place and decided to see a real deer farm...No problems from it though, so good luck.
Heck Issac if ya all can't sell deer just charge addmission to your zoo;)
PaintedMeadowsBJs
05-26-2009, 03:41 PM
Heck if your going to cover your pens with something let me know I need work...
Hey now we know why that guy was climbing the ladder with that roll of fence with no where to go.He was just early!
Isaac@AppleCreek
05-26-2009, 03:47 PM
We have a fully stoked trout pond. The eagle has been siting around it for years. Must have got sick of fish. But we are applying pyrotechnics permit. Problem taken care of. lol
roughcountrywhitetails
05-26-2009, 04:38 PM
My best doe had trips on the 19th checked them all at 10:30 that night the next morning about an hour after frist light I went out to the pens and one of the fawns was gone.
I see bald eagles from time to time and that day I saw a golden eagle not far from the pens we have a lot of owls as well not sure what got her but she is gone.
Isaac@AppleCreek
05-26-2009, 07:35 PM
We might use bottle rockets. Shooting those up in the sky might scare them off after we get the pyrotechnics permit.
Little Falls Whitetails
05-28-2009, 10:57 AM
We have had newborns taken by bald eagles in the past. One thing to consider is to get a place were the fawn can lay that is covered overhead. We've used plastic barrels cut in half lengthwise, and with the top and bottom cut off. Faws will lay in there and the eagle can't get them. First week or two are when they are most vulnerable.
Spiderman
05-28-2009, 01:46 PM
I make tee pees from tree branches about six feet in diameter and as high as my head. The fawns find these and live in them all summer. No eagle or owl can fly down and grab them under these. Jim
ddwhitetails
05-28-2009, 04:55 PM
Cattis Jack will end up in jail doing the bang bang have a nice day theory!!
wvdeerman
05-28-2009, 06:47 PM
I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING !! Apply the S.S.S. theory.
ddwhitetails
05-28-2009, 07:17 PM
I think we need to respect our protected animals.....we want people to respect our whitetails.....I would never want a fawn stolen by an Eagle and the eagle is doing only what it has to do to survive........they will move on if they are scared....they will go look for an easier meal........S.S.S. theory good in some situations but this is not one of them!!
Isaac@AppleCreek
05-28-2009, 07:23 PM
We met with Wildlife Services today to discus the eagle problem. They have not yet issued us the pyrotechnics permit, they would like to wait and see if any fawns die with eagle marks on the body. We will follow up with them tomorrow to avoid any fawn deaths. In the mean time my father travels the pens at dawn and dusk to keep the eagle at BAY I hope Applecreek obtains the pyrotechnics permit and my parents add this new job description to my summer. LOL
Mitch P
05-28-2009, 07:28 PM
Isaac`s new name is, FIRECRAKER !!
ddwhitetails
05-28-2009, 07:33 PM
Isaac roman candles are more fun....:D just don't catch the woods on fire:eek:
Isaac@AppleCreek
05-28-2009, 07:49 PM
Just resurching for my (hopefully) summer job!!!:rolleyes::rolleyes:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3607/3574968436_635bc9f421_o.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2243/3574162205_69f2754a43_o.jpg
LOL
ddwhitetails
05-28-2009, 07:54 PM
Get em Isaac!!
ikoff
05-28-2009, 07:58 PM
If I sent off bottle rockets, my deer would run through the fence and the eagle would watch with a smile on it's face.
Isaac@AppleCreek
05-28-2009, 08:04 PM
I was more excited about the 4-th of July party than the safety of the deer. We feel we will test gun-shots before fireworks, to see if any danger exists. Looking for your thoughts.
ddwhitetails
05-28-2009, 08:07 PM
Ike thats where bottle feeding pays off...
Scott Heinrich
05-28-2009, 08:21 PM
Isaac, dispatching the eagle may not be the best thing, they taste like spotted-owls, a little tough and fishy.
ikoff
05-28-2009, 08:30 PM
Ya, in Wisconsin you can use those kind of fireworks, but here in Minnesota we have to use the sparkle ones that just sit on the ground unless we go across the border and smuggle them over. I still think that a stuffed eagle over the fireplace with a bearskin rug on the floor would look pretty impressive!!!!!
CurtisLloyd
05-29-2009, 11:27 PM
Checking the pens late this afternoon ( 4 pm) and I could see two ravens on the ground , I had tagged triplet does at 10 am one of them was almost picked clean, just head and hide left, started making plans to add ravens to the extinct species list, had not had any problems with them before. Went back to the house to calm down,Took another look at the fawn she had a crushed skull then I had an Einstien and realized that a raven is not big enough to crush a 6 lb fawns skull in the shape of a deer hoof. ravens off the hook.... of all the animal mascots who would name a NFL team after an animal that eats nothing but rotting flesh... the more rotten the better. Looks like I have one mean momma out there,can't even blame it on PMS.
Wild Rivers Whitetails
05-30-2009, 09:07 AM
Here is a pic of one of the barrels we put in our fawn pens. We had some cold rainy weather earlier this week and these barrels were being used - sometimes with two fawns in them - nice and cozy, warm and dry.
Isaac@AppleCreek
05-30-2009, 03:04 PM
Here is a pic of one of the barrels we put in our fawn pens. We had some cold rainy weather earlier this week and these barrels were being used - sometimes with two fawns in them - nice and cozy, warm and dry.
Thank you Wild Rivers Whitetails we all thought that was an excellent idea... so much so in fact that we got to implementing it as as soon as we could! Here's a photo... Thank you for such a great idea!
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2474/3579731792_ac4b4e5a99_o.jpg
PaintedMeadowsBJs
05-30-2009, 03:29 PM
See John that's what I was talking BIG FARM little farm...:)
I have $12.00 barrels
UHMMM they went a little bigger...
When I bought my Maxbo Extreme and Maxbo XL fawns I was hoping to be able to cut a coupon from the auction book... like buy one get one free or something...No such luck:D;)
Hey where did the other picture go Isaac??
Wild Rivers Whitetails
05-31-2009, 01:36 PM
The barrels are great, they give them a place to hide, or stay warm and dry. We have used the white barrels mostly because it is what we were able to get. They do stay a little cooler later in the summer than the black ones. But the main thing is to give the fawns some shelter and shade. We usually pick them up in the fall because the deer will knock them around later during the breeding season - especially the bucks.
Isaac,
Is that 36 inch plastic culvet pipe cut to that size? What outlet did you find this at?
Thank you.
Isaac@AppleCreek
05-31-2009, 05:53 PM
Dear Mr. Jack, we purchased 20 foot culvert pipe, with a 24 inch inside diameter from a local supplier, at $12.00 a foot. We cut the pipe in four foot sections and slightly buried them in the ground next to the fence. We use black so that sun heats during the day and helps our early fawns stay warm at night. We picked 24 inches so that adult deer wont climb in. In the heat of the summer we fence in willow trees in the middle of our pens. This provides a 60 foot mushroom the deer eat the branches 6 ft. high and no matter where the sun is positioned there is shade to be found. We still see eagles but to our knowledge we have not lost any fawns!!!;)
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