Top Doe's

[RLAwhitetails]

I am alway's looking over pedigree's and then more pedigree's to try and see what make's it all work or how this came from that. Alway's looking to try and decide what is the best genetic's out there to use. The more people I talk to the more I hear ( I use this buck because of this doe ) or I should say the more people I talk to that are raising big deer. The one thing all of them seem to have in common is that they stress the power in the doe, not the buck. So I was wondering what some of you feel the top doe's of all time are. What doe's would you want in the pedigree's of the deer on your farm or what doe's would you like to add.

[Ameyer]

Without question:
86C -Gladiator dam
Black 1 - 4M Superdoe
B 37 - daughter of O105, poncho full sister
Y 27 -Maxbo Dam
Superdoe -Shadow dam
Pebbles - Flees
O2 - Danger, Ranger, Stranger dam

Some I'm probably leaving out but this is my list

[TXsnyper]

Yep I gotta agree with those as well.
Especially Black 1, and Superdoe...I would probably also add Highrollers "Holly" to the list.

[WRW_2]

Indiana Pride Doe AGN Queen Probably more 300" sons than any other doe
Boomer Doe Y-27 Maxbo's Mother
Boomer Doe Y-26 Martygraw's Mother
Boomer Doe Y-35 Super Doe
Flee's Curley Doe Daisy Mea Bucky and BJ's Mother
Flees Budde Doe Y-0294 Maxbo XL and Chance's Mother
BJ-1 Doe B-37 Hardcore's Mother
Peach Doe O-2 Maxbo Ranger, Stranger, and Danger's Mother
Poncho Doe R-97 Many son's as breeders across the country
Any double PSU J-44 Doe In most all of Griffith Brother's Big Breeders Pedigrees

Not just what THEY produced, but also what their SONS produced as well.

I'm sure there are plenty I left out, these are just off the top of my head.

[Neeby]

So many great super does!!! But here in Pa there is one super doe that is by far and beyond the best and that is RED 16 powerballs mother, not only has she thrown 300 and400 bucks but all here daughters have and so far granddaughters have!!!! Ive talked to wilmer martin red 16 s owner many times and that girl produces!!!! john ervins fastball kennen hardcore riot crownmaker and dutchboy to name a few!!!!! And powerball has huge sons like mojo in florida and josh newtons big yearling!!!!! Another super doe here in Pa is Harmony from jake glicks farm, mother of climax amongst others!!!

Scott Neeb
www.chanllowfarms.com
In the Heart of Pa Dutch Country

[richie0033]

I agree .. Red 16 Will get it done..

[iadeer]

I aways like these posts, that hopefully make people think.
When you think through the great number of does that are "great" what is the criteria?
Another question to answer is what are my goals. Do you have a buisness plan.
Are you just dreaming or is there a specfic reason you are thinking about a particular doe?
Answer this for me what is the reason this doe makes your list? ie, marketability, pedigree, production, hype, uniqueness, genetic traits she passes down, over all score of sons, etc.

[J 5 Ranch]

Black 1, 86C, blue 37, R16, Blue 510, super doe, Holly....
These are my favorite. Super does not only produce big sons but also daughters who should out produce there dam!! Very few out there have daughters like them that are producing as well as them or better!

[iadeer]

I keep the list of does pretty small, and close to home.

Angela, now 13 years old. mother to Amos, Mother to Green 61, the largest Maxbo yearling ever owned by Rusty Karr. Grandmother to Auggie, Amazon, Alvin. Great Grandmother to Arty twice. Her daughters have "all" produced exceptional sons as well.
She passes on tine length, with a son and grandson having tines over 17 inches. All her down line offspring are extemely calm, and the ability to successfully AI off the charts.

Rhonney, was purchases when she was old. she produced her best son Auggie when she was 15 years old. she produces great tine lenght, and beam length. Her sons have always been bigger than their fathers. She has only one living son, Auggie and one living daughter, Yellow 587. But have been and are several down line offspring on the maternal side.

Paris is a daughter of J.R. a Walks Magnum son. She is the mother to Star Gazer and the grandmother to Amazon. She has had only one other son a 6x6 200 inch 3 year old. she is the mother to Deluxe, Amazon's mother. Paris has several daughter and granddaughter. there has been a shortage of sons in this line but I am not worried, they will come.

The Dan Weaver Doe. The doe that put Dean Borntrager on top of the industry.

Delilah one of only 2 direct Dean's Moose daughters. Powerful production here.

Xenia, is Ace's full sister has always been a great producer, but as of late her daughters are produing beautiful typical sons being used a breeder bucks, pretty cool.

That is my short list, all these doe lines are right here at home.

[gcw matt]

POF Pretty Girl- three Great sons out of PA Geronimo, Maxbo, and U-Turn. She clicked with different genetic so this proves power to me.

G-108- Is a Little Boomer doe that is showing up in a lot of big pedigrees.

Y-7- is Reggies dam and Pretty Girls dam so obviously there is power there. Look at Cardiac Kid and the Pin Oak Bucks I mentioned above.

POF Kiwi- has jumped up on our list with her first son being POF Right-A-Way 245+ @1

I stuck to doe lines on my farm and on Pin Oak Farm because this is what we believe in and what we have producing for us right now!

Then again I have heard that you are just one Flees doe away from proving your herd sire a Super Sire! ;)

[Whitetail Sanctuary]

Matt, I like your comment that: "I stuck to doe lines on my farm and on Pin Oak Farm because this is what we believe in and what we have producing for us right now!"

How many folks have that much faith in the line or lines they are using? and stick to them and don't chase the "HYPE" and get distracted by the latest and greatest new fad!

[Whitetail Sanctuary]

Fred, Many are finding out the "A TEAM" is getting some well deserved notice!

[Whitetail Sanctuary]

Lines that all to often get over looked and are true producers!

Dean Bontragers
Gzells
Patrick

[crocket]

Lines that all to often get over looked and are true producers!

Dean Bontragers
Gzells
Patrick

the way i see things is the ( old lines ) are on a come back, or NEVER LEFT ,,, im a BIG FAN OF THE LINE OF RED 8!!!!! and thats what im going to stick with/die with..... well mabe do something with ( LT ) but still on the same LINE, LETS NOT FORGET ABOUT NUMAX ----

[gcw matt]

the way i see things is the ( old lines ) are on a come back, or NEVER LEFT ,,, im a BIG FAN OF THE LINE OF RED 8!!!!! and thats what im going to stick with/die with..... well mabe do something with ( LT ) but still on the same LINE, LETS NOT FORGET ABOUT NUMAX ----

I bred with him this year on my farm!;)

[revels]

Black 1 Texas super doe...... She produces, her daughters produce, and her sons and grandsons produce. There are many great does but the black one line I think will most likely have the total most inches......

[crocket]

Black 1 Texas super doe...... She produces, her daughters produce, and her sons and grandsons produce. There are many great does but the black one line I think will most likely have the total most inches......

do tell more ????

[SJames]

When we bought a bunch of does about 4 years ago we concentrated on 3 lines.

One was the HighRoller line, one was the PA Geronimo and J44 line and one was the Patrick/Thunder/Avalanche line (through AGN Queen and others). We bought 7 does that had 300 inch sons on the ground. Then we added the max line and some texas genetics later through Maxbo, Maxbo 727 and others. We also invested in some Flee genetics.

One doe that was really good for us and shows up in a ton of pedigrees was Red 8, Waylon and Waldos Mother. I guess you would call her the HighRoller line since she is out of Pink 2 on the bottom. She was Kuhn's Chief on top. He was Duke over Pepsi and also the sire to Sneakers. I'm not sure where all that started.

It just so happens she is for sale on Whitetail Exchange this week. She is 11 years old and A.I. bred to Cardiac Kid.

Since the topic was foundation or super does, I just thought I'd bring that up. We are only selling her cause we already have fawns from that same cross. She has A.I.'d every year we have owned her! . :)

[chris patton]

I really shoudn't be on here responding to who I think the best does are.
I have been burned sometimes for my comments. There is to many does to say that they are the best producers. This is just my opinion and only my opinion.
Me, My self, believe that Mark Sipes doe YB40 and her 4 quad daughters are the best producing does in the industry. It don't really matter what semen or live breeding you put in these does, they just make it happen. Please, this is just my opinoion. I forgot about Bessie, who is now on my farm live breed back to XWL Tombstone.

[crocket]

When we bought a bunch of does about 4 years ago we concentrated on 3 lines.

One was the HighRoller line, one was the PA Geronimo and J44 line and one was the Patrick/Thunder/Avalanche line (through AGN Queen and others). We bought 7 does that had 300 inch sons on the ground. Then we added the max line and some texas genetics later through Maxbo, Maxbo 727 and others. We also invested in some Flee genetics.

One doe that was really good for us and shows up in a ton of pedigrees was Red 8, Waylon and Waldos Mother. I guess you would call her the HighRoller line since she is out of Pink 2 on the bottom. She was Kuhn's Chief on top. He was Duke over Pepsi and also the sire to Sneakers. I'm not sure where all that started.

It just so happens she is for sale on Whitetail Exchange this week. She is 11 years old and A.I. bred to Cardiac Kid.

Since the topic was foundation or super does, I just thought I'd bring that up. We are only selling her cause we already have fawns from that same cross. She has A.I.'d every year we have owned her! . :)

WAIT are u saying u r selling ( the red 8 ) doe ???? please send me a pm as well as a respound to this

[crocket]

i really shoudn't be on here responding to who i think the best does are.
I have been burned sometimes for my comments. There is to many does to say that they are the best producers. This is just my opinion and only my opinion.
Me, my self, believe that mark sipes doe yb40 and her 4 quad daughters are the best producing does in the industry. It don't really matter what semen or live breeding you put in these does, they just make it happen. Please, this is just my opinoion. I forgot about bessie, who is now on my farm live breed back to xwl tombstone.

are your phones working ??? U know a lot of us have 6-9 jobs and this (late time ) is the onely time to take care of this deer stuff , sorry,

[CI Deer Mason]

Black one is one of the best producing does in the state of Texas. By far! She is producing through her sons and grandsons! Her most notable grand son is 4M MOAB who scores 458"@3, another great grandson of hers is 4M gladiators hammer 357"@4(we're lucky enough to be breeding with his twin brother this year). So we should be able to see first hand what the black one line produces!

[jason_larue]

I am one of these DOE FANATICS!! I don't even seriously consider breeding a sire until I know he is out of a doe that makes my standards. We all have different standards to which a doe "MAKES THE LIST".

Some things I consider are:

Has she had multiple sons that are "Breeder Industry Quality" out of several different sires?

Does she have a "Breeder Industry Quality" Womb Brother or Full Brother?

How has her sister and mother produced based on the standards mentioned above?

BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY AS OF RECENT!!! Even if she is consistent....Is she throwing the "LOOK" that our herd/industry is wanting?

We are even more picky when choosing a buck to breed...It's no longer just good enough to breed a buck that throws good sons but he has to throw just as strong does that throw great sons, also.

[jason_larue]

All that said.... there are just a few does L&W is focusing on line-breeding into our herd due to their merit.

But I will also mention some does that are great does in merit, regardless of whether they fit our line or not, yet.

South

86C - Gladiator & Secret Weapon's Mother...this will be easy due to all the Gladiator sons out there who are also out of Great Does with merit

Black 1- Ben Mooring has done a great job already informing everyone of what she is capable of... MOAB & G. Hammer have been our breeding plan the last two years and we believe they will remain

B 510- Gonzalez Whitetail's Max Dream, Kid Dynamite, Dreambo

#172 – Top Gun (232@2, 298@3, 355@5) and Top Bro 268@3 mother

#339/June - Cash Call 235@2 (240” Typical Last 2 years 24” Wide since 2), Top Cash 288@2, 290@3, 300+@4 (26”+ Wide), Johnny Cash 227”@3 6x6 Typical….Mother to all these bucks. June/339 is out of Top Gun 355@5 mother’s wombsister (#173)

#639/Top Girl – Top Gun 355@5 Fullsister, Top Bro 268@3 Wombsister, Top Secret 240+@2 mother, Twin Rolex Yearlings 160+ Mother

Green 68 – Lane Laning’s Power Doe That has been behind Thor, Zeus, and Maxbo Prickly

Not sure of her number but Maxbo 727 & Overdrive’s Mother

Holly has merit having throw Yardstick & Primetime

The only one that is coming to mind from Robert William’s herd would be Monarch I & II and Budro’s Mother

North

Super Doe & Daughters- Nuff Said!!!

B37- Hardcore, Soldicore, Maximus DT & CR

O2- Danger, Ranger, Stranger

R16-She has a pile of sons and couple daughters with track record

Torch’s Wombsister has an impressive Maxbo 2yr old and a nice Hardcore Yearling

Bonnie-At Chris Miller’s Farm

Mark Sipes Quad Maxbo XL Does that have thrown Freebird, Cowboy, Frequent Flyer, ETC

Spyder’s Grandmother is also tied into Rocky Roller and I believe a few other sons

There were 3 strong does back in the day at Griffith Brothers that were like Lexus’s Mom, Buckster’s Mom, Ultra Max Mom, Geronimax Mom
Punch Bowl’s Mom ol’ Steady 111 Doe

*I know I’ve probably missed a bunch that deserve notice but these are off the top of my head. My detailed notes are at the ranch

[RLAwhitetails]

So if I want to add some of these great does, the best way to go about this would be to pick a couple of proven doe's find some of there son's. Pick the one that has the look that I like, or more important the market likes. Breed him to my doe, take there female offspring breed right back to another one of her son's to get the doe of intrest twice. After all of this take a female from that breeding and use a son from a differant family line out of another super doe to cross with the doe I would now have. Then repeat the process on and on.

right or wrong ?

[Whitetail Sanctuary]

RLA, If you breed for what the market likes...................You will be in trouble fast!
Breed for PRODUCTION and STRONG PROVEN SIRES and DAMS................I think you will find it's ALOT easier to cash those checks!!

[RLAwhitetails]

RLA, If you breed for what the market likes...................You will be in trouble fast!
Breed for PRODUCTION and STRONG PROVEN SIRES and DAMS................I think you will find it's ALOT easier to cash those checks!!

10-4 on that, to be honest I would only use animal's that have the look that I like anyway, big frame, long beam's and long tine's. If there is not a nice frame there that you can see it is of no intrest to me regardles of inches or how popular it is still must have that frame.

[Four Seasons Whitetails]

That will be a smart move. Like it or not there are some great bucks on paper that just are not as big as the paper says they should be and then there are some no name crosses that are awesome looking. Think stocker bucks and dont chase the hype... That will pay the feed bill with some left over to take the wife to dinner!!!

[bmooring]

Thanks for all the kind words about 4M Black 1 Texas Super Doe!

1. 4M Black 1 Texas Super Doe
2. Blue 510
3. 86c
4. Holly
5. Green 68
6. Beauty
7. Emmy
8. Superdoe
9. Blue 37
10. TR yellow 123
11. R16

All Nuclear Power Plants............. north and south in random order!

Ben

[darren]

I have to mention our purple 35, she is 5 yrs old and has had 4 buck fawns, collectivly the 4 bucks have scored over 1,300 inches of horn at 2 yrs old. Her sons include Redline, Redbull, Aftershock and Redbulls womb brother. I am also a big fan of red 16 and Beauty. Darren

[dryc66]

I have never considered myself a genetics guru, but here in TX I have noticed that many of the best producers, (of both bucks and income) have a select group of does that keep showing up in their pedigrees. I do wish I had more knowledge in the northern lines, but simply don't have the time to put into the research. So, here are a few of the TX does that I THINK deserve mention. (in no particular order)

86C
Blue 510
Blk 1
Holly
A225
W13

Of these girls "to my knowledge" only Holly has produced 2 bucks over 350"

Also think I have to mention that does out of the Dreambuck and 727 lines have consistently put huge bucks on the ground and cash in the bank!

Really enjoying the thread. I've already learned of a doe or two that I need to do a little more looking into!

[Ameyer]

I have never considered myself a genetics guru, but here in TX I have noticed that many of the best producers, (of both bucks and income) have a select group of does that keep showing up in their pedigrees. I do wish I had more knowledge in the northern lines, but simply don't have the time to put into the research. So, here are a few of the TX does that I THINK deserve mention. (in no particular order)

86C
Blue 510
Blk 1
Holly
A225
W13

Of these girls "to my knowledge" only Holly has produced 2 bucks over 350"

Also think I have to mention that does out of the Dreambuck and 727 lines have consistently put huge bucks on the ground and cash in the bank!

Really enjoying the thread. I've already learned of a doe or two that I need to do a little more looking into!
Good to see you Mr. R!

[RBeckham]

Great thread!

I find the hardest thing to get on a power doe is to get her in the anchor position of the pedigree. Getting a direct daughter or grand daughter of one of these does is difficult and expensive but very worth it. This has been my overriding goal for the last three years and the fruits are significant.

My list

Black 1-incredible bucks and does
Green 68 incredible does
B 37 incredible bucks
02 incredible bucks
510 incredible bucks and does
Holly incredible bucks
White 22 incredible bucks
Purple 66 incredible bucks

[High_Roller_Whitetails]

OK Ive never posted on here but thanks to you Ben, yall have my interest. Daniel I fully agree with you on Texas superdoes. At High Roller Whitetails we have several criteria when labeling a doe a "super doe". Number 1 is marketability, Number 2 is predictability, Number 3 is consistency, and last and most important that is all 3 of these in one word is PEDIGREE. In the state of Texas there are less than 20 GREAT does in my opinion. A "super" doe in my opinion is a doe that has multiple big, marketable sons. The problem with that is it takes so many years for a doe to reach that status. Many does with the potential to be labeled a "super" doe never reach an age to where that can happen. "Great" does on the other hand are does that are "mothers of" or "sisters of" truly marketable bucks. This is a great thread.

[Derby Sands]

High Roller, I agree with you 100%. Here is a list of some Texas super does

1. Holly - Dam to Yardstick and primetime and the only doe in the State of Texas with two bucks over 350.

2. W13- Dam to Maxbo 727 and Overdrive .
* 727 daughters are consistent and proven and have toped many of Texas sales.
3. A225 - Dam to Kid Rock , Bocephus and Lone Hollow Texas Ranger
4. Blue 510 - Dam to Max Dream , Kid Dynamite and Dreambo
5. 86C - Dam to Gladiator and Secret Weapon
6.Black 1- Dam to Hammer Time , Hammmer , Sledge Hammer

[Schwartz]

I don't consider myself to be an expert by any means but, I can say that I have seen my fair share of all the animals on everyone's list over the past 8 years that I have been in the business and all their offspring on a fairly consistent basis every year. There is no question in my mind that all these does being mentioned are super does. That being said these are the does that I feel beyond a shadow of a doubt have proven themselves over and over again. Not saying that there aren't other ones out there at all but stuff out of these does should make you a pay check. If it doesn't we better all take a second look at what we are doing. I'm not going to list what each has produced, super does speak for themselves. No particular order here.

Texas Super Does
Holly
Black 1
A225
Blue 510
W-13
86C

North Super Does
Blue 37
Super-doe
O-2
R-16
Beauty

[realbiologist]

Black 1 - grand dam to 4M Gladiator's Hammer 367" @ 4 (produced 207" yearling), grand dam to 4M Maxbo's Hammer 263" @ 2, grand dam to 4M Moab 458" @ 3 , her bucks are big and her daughters produce, did I mention she throws wide son's............30+ inside

[Russell Furnace]

Wow...this is a subject that could be elaborated on for hours. The bottom line is that we are all proud of our own deer, ESPECIALLY our top does. With the bar continuoulsy behing raised higher and higher, year after year, the definition of a true "super doe" has definitely changed. Lets face it, like alot of you, we have does on our farm who have year after year produced 3 year olds nearing if not surpassing the 300" mark that are being released into the pasture. Most of us never thought we'd see the day when 300" 3 year olds would be labeled as shooters and their mothers overlooked and not considered a "super doe" themselves. Although they are producing "super" offspring, they are not in the elite class that are considered "super does". IT without a doubt requires more than just the ability to throw a big son. There are TONS of big bucks out there but we all know it takes more than a big score to make it in today's market. I think James said it very well in post. It takes more than just the ability to produce big sons or having a flashy pedigree...IT TAKES BOTH. Also, it takes real scores. There is nothing that turns myself and alot of others I have spoken with off of a particular deer than an exxaggerated score. Quite frankly i find it insulting when someone posts a score and doesn't think I have enough sense to tell that the buck doesn't score anywhere near what is claimed. Let's face it, whitetail breeding is a competition to some degree and we all want "our' stuff to be the best and hottest in the industry. All of that being said I agree with many of the above mentioned female lines. I would also like to stress that for those of you who know me, you know I am not a salesman, I just love whitetails and call it like I see it.

Holly
Black 1
A 225
86C
W13
B510

These girls credentials have all been accurately mentioned previously and in my mind they are the cream of the crop! Put them in a pedigree and sit back and watch it work!!

[parcoace]

I would have to agree with several of you on the list of Texas super does. Im sure there are several more out there that I would love to have on my farm, however if I had to pick only 6 it would be(no paticular order).
A225- Kid Rock, Bocephus, Texas Ranger
B510- Max Dream, Kid Dynamite, Dreambo
W13- Overdrive, Maxbo 727
Black1- Hammertime, Hammer, Slege Hammer
Holly - Yardstick, Primetime
86C- Gladiator, Secret Weapon

I would also like to second Derby Sands comment on Bambi 727, and Dreambuck Does. Having 727 or Dreambuck on the bottom side of a pedigree is a good start in Texas.
Bambi727 on bottom of Express, Maxbo 727, Kid Rock, Overdrive, Bocephus, Texas Ranger, just to name a few. The list is growing fast. Remember this is just there first 1 or 2 years of breeding to get that list.

Dreambuck on bottom Max Dream, Kid Dynamite, Easy Does It, Dreambo, Moabb, and more.

Both of these doe lines have shown that they can be line bred or outcrossed to just about anything and work!

[PureDeer]

I think farm has its own superdoe! The does have gottin so good these days that many many girls are super. Lot of GOOD mentioned above tho

[kidskoal79]

In the words of Billy.......
I agee with production and marketability creating the ulitimte superdoe.. Hands down Y27,B37,O2, and Supedoe donimate the norhtern superdoe group!! The man that can put all of these in one pedigree wins!!!!
As far as sons over 350-Superdoe produced the first 250" 2 year old(Rocket 438@4 he was also a million dollar plus producer), then she had big Jake 357@4(maybe biggest 5x5 frame ever- also million dollar plus producer), Then the bombshell-Shadow!!! Ashamed to say the income he's produced!!! Plus Shadows brother Galore314" and Horse 294".. Thats only mentioning sons that are 300" caliber, She has several other sons 250"plus!! That averages 350"in 5 bucks!!! Now lets not forget her daughters, there starting to show up with big sons also!!! Oh!! and last but not least she is now the grandmother to the gentle giant-ENERGIZER 34.5" inside and biggest hard antler buck to ever have a tape on!!!!! Hands down the most widely used Northern buck in TX!!!!!!
As for Tx superdoes........ B510,Blk1,G68,A225,DB632,B203, and the one and only Holly(the production and income she has produced is nuts!)
I know I missed some but these were the first girls to come to mind, I know there will soon be more to come.....LONG LIVE THE SUPERDOES!!!!!!!!

[dominantgenetics]

yes iadeer, angela did get it done on my farm as she has had multiple framey typical sons on my farm as well. red 2 bein one of the most proven poncho does , i believe ancor doe's is very important, there are so many out there now its not funny .
i have noticed that everyone has diffrant views on super doe's as some like to brag and others just let them get the job done...

[Gaylen C]

Well said Rusty.

[TrappersCreekWhitetails]

I don't consider myself to be an expert by any means but, I can say that I have seen my fair share of all the animals on everyone's list over the past 8 years that I have been in the business and all their offspring on a fairly consistent basis every year. There is no question in my mind that all these does being mentioned are super does. That being said these are the does that I feel beyond a shadow of a doubt have proven themselves over and over again. Not saying that there aren't other ones out there at all but stuff out of these does should make you a pay check. If it doesn't we better all take a second look at what we are doing. I'm not going to list what each has produced, super does speak for themselves. No particular order here.

Texas Super Does
Holly
Black 1
A225
Blue 510
W-13
86C

North Super Does
Blue 37
Super-doe
O-2
R-16
Beauty

I would like to add a couple does to this North Super Doe list

Borntragers Dan Weaver doe, Grandmother to both High Roller , Drifter also mother to Sunweaver ... All 3 have produced multiple 350" plus inch sons .
Flees Daisy Mae ... Mother to BJ and Bucky

[High_Roller_Whitetails]

In the words of Billy.......
I agee with production and marketability creating the ulitimte superdoe.. Hands down Y27,B37,O2, and Supedoe donimate the norhtern superdoe group!! The man that can put all of these in one pedigree wins!!!!
As far as sons over 350-Superdoe produced the first 250" 2 year old(Rocket 438@4 he was also a million dollar plus producer), then she had big Jake 357@4(maybe biggest 5x5 frame ever- also million dollar plus producer), Then the bombshell-Shadow!!! Ashamed to say the income he's produced!!! Plus Shadows brother Galore314" and Horse 294".. Thats only mentioning sons that are 300" caliber, She has several other sons 250"plus!! That averages 350"in 5 bucks!!! Now lets not forget her daughters, there starting to show up with big sons also!!! Oh!! and last but not least she is now the grandmother to the gentle giant-ENERGIZER 34.5" inside and biggest hard antler buck to ever have a tape on!!!!! Hands down the most widely used Northern buck in TX!!!!!!
As for Tx superdoes........ B510,Blk1,G68,A225,DB632,B203, and the one and only Holly(the production and income she has produced is nuts!)
I know I missed some but these were the first girls to come to mind, I know there will soon be more to come.....LONG LIVE THE SUPERDOES!!!!!!!!

i agree...........